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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2013 5:23:03 GMT -5
Kleines c, writing in a now abandoned forum, told us that "Nigel Andrews, writing in the FT, gives it five stars (out of five)." I have already indicated my view, but in a recent T.L.S. I find a review of this film by a Mr. Guttenplan, whose son Alexander studies natural science at Emmanuel College Cambridge. (Looking a little further we find that this son has his own entry in the Wikipædia, even - perhaps the least interesting in the whole: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Guttenplan"He has hundreds of 'fans'," we read there, "who call themselves Guttenfans - 'Guys' want to be him, girls want to be with him!" Would it not be more stirring did 'guys' want to be with him and girls [ sc. young women] want to be him.) Things of this kind could interest only a northern american I thought, and sure enough upon looking up Guttenberg père I find he is one (and jewish to boot). No surprise that, since over the past twenty years the T.L.S. has become more and more americanized. Doubtless a few strategically-placed moles pulling the strings. Anyway, here is the kernel of Guttenplan's observations: "There is an extra element of suspense in all Spielberg's historical epics: will he, we wonder, resist the sentimentality that has brought him so much success in Hollywood?" [ "Hollywood" being a kind of place - was it not where Schönberg settled?] "By now it should be clear that Spielberg can do what ever he wants with his medium - but viewers who miss the last ten minutes will see a better film." "Yet it was," continues Guttenberg, "during that final swerve for edification [?] that I finally remembered where I'd met this particular Lincoln before: in the pages of Gore Vidal's novel. . . . Historians, naturally, hated Vidal's Lincoln." Well that is quite enough grumbling - I put it in only because of the reference to Vidal, whose City and the Pillar, Myra Breckinridge and Palimpsest should all be on the curricula of schools world-wide.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2013 7:35:03 GMT -5
I should perhaps clarify, if only for Sydney Grew, that around the year 2000, I started contributing to an online discussion forum for the first time. For professional reasons, amongst others, I tend to read ' The Financial Times', and they launched a series of online discussion forums in 2000. After a few years, the FT Forums were abandoned in favour of blogs. www.ft.com/comment/blogsThe discussions @ft.com were continued at ' Serious Topics' between 2004 and 2013. In much the same way, the BBC Radio 3 Message Boards were also abandoned in favour of blogs. www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radio3/I suspect that what happened at both organisations (the FT and the BBC) is that it was felt that their online discussion forums and message boards were not serving the host institutions as they would have wanted. This helps explain the move from discussion forums towards blogs. As for kleines c, I should perhaps clarify that I have no official connection with either the FT or the BBC, although I do happen to know quite a lot of people who work for both organisations. As for Nigel Andrews, the FT's film critic, and indeed, Alexander Guttenplan, I should add that I do not personally know either of them. As for ' Lincoln', I doubt that the film will clean up at the Oscars tonight, Sydney Grew. www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/oscars/9888300/Oscars-2013-the-Oscars-is-Lincolns-chance-at-redemption.htmlAny particular favourites? www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-20901126
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2013 8:14:16 GMT -5
Yes, in regard to "Serious Topics," I joined up (or thought I had) about a week ago, but as soon as I attempted to post a message, I received a refusal, and a screen saying:
Hot Topics Sorry, an error has occurred.
So I logged off, and as soon as I logged on again I received a screen saying again:
Hot Topics Sorry, an error has occurred.
Until I attempted to post a message, everything was wonderful - I imagined I was in the company of top international bankers and minor royalty, even. But now I get the message that I am not like the others after all . . .
Perhaps it is punishment for being off topic.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2013 8:49:31 GMT -5
If anyone is interested, here is the website for ' Serious Topics'. www.serioustopics.com/As you may have guessed, Sydney Grew, I know the host of this particular online discussion forum rather well. Red Hot Pawn set up the website in 2004, but unfortunately, it has not been well maintained. When you posted last week, Sydney Grew, I was offline, so I was not able to reply. It may well have suffered another cyberattack in the meantime. I suspect that the host currently feels that it is not worth bothering with ' Serious Topics' any more (after nine years), so he may or may not fix the software errors, depending upon how difficult it is for him to do so. A lot of the discussion over the years has been extremely confrontational, Sydney Grew, so I am not sure it is necessarily a good idea to invite its posters here. Of course, all these online communities have their own specific tensions, much as offline. For example, kleines c is unwelcome at FoR3 and R3OK, but more than welcome elsewhere, for example, at the legendary Nag's Head. www.videojug.com/film/london-the-nags-head-pubSuch is the nature of the beast, Sydney Grew! www.fancyapint.com/Pub/london/nags-head/385
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Post by neilmcgowan on Feb 24, 2013 9:38:16 GMT -5
As for ' Lincoln', I doubt that the film will clean up at the Oscars tonight, Sydney Grew. You really doubt it will? Its chances seem to me as good as a film about Chairman Mao in the annual Chairman Mao Film Festival.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2013 9:50:21 GMT -5
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Post by neilmcgowan on Feb 24, 2013 14:43:06 GMT -5
There is, inevitably, an American bias in Hollywood, Neil McGowan, but ' Lincoln' looks set to win around four Oscars tonight. I'm surprised it's only four.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 1:10:09 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 3:50:41 GMT -5
I should perhaps confess that I have seen precious few of this or next year's Oscar winners, Neil McGowan, so I currently feel unable to comment on their artistic merit. I rather liked ' Once Upon a Time in Anatolia'. www.nbcfilm.com/anatolia/anatolia.php?mid=1
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 3:57:37 GMT -5
. . . A lot of the discussion over the years has been extremely confrontational, Sydney Grew, so I am not sure it is necessarily a good idea to invite its posters here. . . . Such is the nature of the beast, Sydney Grew! What caused the confrontations kleines c? Was it puppetry, pride, anger or charlatanism?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 4:30:40 GMT -5
All four, I suspect, Sydney Grew. Furthermore, I suspect that conflict is part of the human condition, and in my experience, it is replicated just as easily online in social media as it is in real life. My own feeling, as you know, is that there are dangers in separating virtual and real communities, just as there are dangers in integrating them. You can see these tensions being played out at BBC Radio 3, for example. As far as ' Serious Topics' is concerned, its roots lay in a housing forum @ft.com. For the record, this is how it started: www.propertyfacts.co.uk/forumarchive/001.htmA number of housing bears, who had sold to rent (STRs) in 2002, were becoming increasingly frustrated that the UK housing market, in particular, had not crashed by 2004, as they had predicted. In retrospect, the current and ongoing global financial crisis began in 2007.
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Post by neilmcgowan on Feb 25, 2013 4:43:28 GMT -5
I should perhaps confess that I have seen precious few of this or next year's Oscar winners, Neil McGowan, so I currently feel unable to comment on their artistic merit. [/url][/quote] I find the idea of the category "Best Foreign Film" ludicrous (since foreign films also get nominations in the other categories), but "Amor" was a good film, certainly. I wouldn't cross the street to see the other garbage.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 5:08:47 GMT -5
. . . frustrated that the UK housing market, in particular, had not crashed by 2004 . . . There was a time (talking about crossing the street), not so long ago, when houses just off Finchley Road, on the good side, just up from the station, were on sale for £7,000 - and thought unaffordable to boot.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 5:27:51 GMT -5
How things change, Sydney Grew! www.zoopla.co.uk/home-values/london/finchley-road-nw3/As for cinema, the wider arts and culture in general, Neil McGowan, it can be difficult to work out what is good. As a natural scientist, I find such subjectivity challenging! Award ceremonies, in general, are not necessarily a good guide, Sydney Grew. Nor are Nigel Andrews, the FT and the world's critics. What, however, is?
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Post by neilmcgowan on Feb 25, 2013 10:17:21 GMT -5
I have no idea what criteria are employed in awarding the "Oscars"
How does this ceremony differ, for example, from the Cannes Film Festival awards?
Who endows the judges with their wisdom, insight and authority?
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