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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2016 10:51:40 GMT -5
Due to unprecedented demand from around the world, everyone reading ' The Third' is cordially invited to celebrate the range, versatility and power of black actors. If you cannot make ' Black Star' in person, here it is online: BFI - Black Star
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2016 23:53:14 GMT -5
A more accurate and agreeable adjective would be simply "darkish" - or even "chocolatey". Were one a parent one would not wish one's children described as "black" would one? All sorts of overtones that has.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 10:58:47 GMT -5
Arguably the greatest philosopher of the twentieth century, Ludwig Wittgenstein felt that previous philosophers had tied themselves in knots by asking the wrong sorts of questions. They thought philosophical problems were to do with understanding the nature of the world but Wittgenstein thought they were all problems of language. Sort language out, Sydney, and you could knock philosophy itself on the head. Wittgenstein thus pondered how language related to the world, what the limits of language were and what this all meant for the philosopher. He came to two different conclusions; firstly, as outlined in ' The Tractatus', that language had a logical structure that accurately reflected the structure of reality; secondly, as outlined in the later ' Philosophical Investigations', that language was a game, full of tricks, jokes and subtleties, the meaning of which was derived from social context as much as logical analysis. Ultimately, Wittgenstein was unsure that anything could be said about how language related to the world because that was necessarily beyond the scope and meaning of language itself. Thus he concluded that some things remain unsayable and declared: As for being "black", "darkish" - or even "chocolatey" - we have to be sensitive to the social context in which such adjectives are used. I often get it wrong. Here are some of The Best Black Performances of All Time!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 19:00:33 GMT -5
Arguably the greatest philosopher of the twentieth century, Ludwig Wittgenstein felt that ... Are real philosophers entitled to argue we wonder?
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Post by ahinton on Nov 20, 2016 12:08:36 GMT -5
Arguably the greatest philosopher of the twentieth century, Ludwig Wittgenstein felt that ... Are real philosophers entitled to argue we wonder? As usual, I have no idea who "we" are but that's hardly the point, since kleines c did not suggest that philosophers should (or even shouldn't) argue, his reference to "arguably" being clearly applicable not to philosophers themselves but to those who might consider their work.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 18:55:56 GMT -5
...that's hardly the point, since kleines c did not suggest that philosophers should (or even shouldn't) argue, his reference to "arguably" being clearly applicable not to philosophers themselves but to those who might consider their work. Well is that not do you think precisely why we wonder?
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Post by ahinton on Nov 21, 2016 1:07:43 GMT -5
...that's hardly the point, since kleines c did not suggest that philosophers should (or even shouldn't) argue, his reference to "arguably" being clearly applicable not to philosophers themselves but to those who might consider their work. Well is that not do you think precisely why we wonder? Since you ask, no (not that I can speak for this nebulous "we"); "we" appear to be "wondering" about one thing whereas kleines c is referring to something else (unless I'm missing something here)...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 9:23:50 GMT -5
Well, I suppose that the Socratic method is a form of argument, and Wittgenstein's Poker one of the most famous philosophical arguments of the twentieth century. On 25 October 1946, Karl Popper (then at the London School of Economics), was invited to present a paper entitled "Are There Philosophical Problems?" at a meeting of the Moral Sciences Club, which was chaired by Ludwig Wittgenstein. The two started arguing vehemently over whether there existed substantial problems in philosophy, or merely linguistic puzzles, the position taken by Wittgenstein. In Popper's, and the popular account, Wittgenstein used a fireplace poker to emphasise his points, gesturing with it as the argument grew more heated. When challenged by Wittgenstein to state an example of a moral rule, Popper (later) claimed to have replied "Not to threaten visiting lecturers with pokers", upon which (according to Popper) Wittgenstein threw down the poker and stormed out. I would have suggested the categorical imperative, although it is both a moral rule and a linguistic puzzle? Due to unprecedented demand from around the world, everyone reading ' The Third' is cordially invited to join Mark Kermode Live in 3D at the BFI (NFT1). It is naturally sold out at 18:30 (GMT) tonight, although if you queue for returns, you could just still get in, and Mark is back at 18:30 on Monday 12 December 2016. He will sell out again, so if you want to go, book now! This wildly popular monthly event explores, critiques and dissects movies past and present. Get involved! You can tweet questions in advance to @kermodemovie #MK3D. If you have no questions, I should like to recommend In the Heat of the Night instead. It may be too hot, so if you cannot make it in person, What’s Love Got to Do with It? The Guardian - Sidney Poitier's Mister Tibbs voted best performance by black actor in public pollAfterwards, look for the secret door behind a bookcase. Find it, and you’ve found the way to the Drawing Room – an intimate cocktail bar. Join us for a drink. Cheers!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 10:11:42 GMT -5
What a night! Congratulations to all!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 5:56:40 GMT -5
So, are darkies still a thing for the English middle to upper classes of to-day? We suppose that if the case that must explain Africa and all its tribes will not we suppose it must? Money, nations and Art what!
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Post by ahinton on Nov 23, 2016 7:02:11 GMT -5
So, are darkies still a thing for the English middle to upper classes of to-day? What precisely do you mean by that question? - I don't understand; what are "darkies"? to what sort of a "thing" do you refer? who are the contemporary English "middle to upper classes" and why do you allude only to the English ones? We suppose that if the case that must explain Africa and all its tribes will not we suppose it must? If that's a sentence, I'm a Zimbabwean! I've tried to insert punctuation into it at various different points in order to try to elicit a meaning but still cannot get it to make sense as one. Money, nations and Art what! Whilst recognising the existence of all three, I must confess that I have no idea "what" - or even why that interrogative is followed by an exclamation mark rather than a question mark....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 9:33:34 GMT -5
If that's a sentence, I'm a Zimbabwean! We suppose that, if [that is] the case, that must explain Africa and all its tribes[, ] will not [we suppose] it must? [very rare, the future tense of "must" there].
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Post by ahinton on Nov 23, 2016 11:01:44 GMT -5
If that's a sentence, I'm a Zimbabwean! We suppose that, if [that is] the case, that must explain Africa and all its tribes[, ] will not [we suppose] it must? [very rare, the future tense of "must" there]. But neither the former nor the latter IS the case and "that" would not in any case "explain" either "Africa and all its tribes" (or the reference thereto) or indeed anything else! As to "will not...it must", since "must" is not a verb in current usage, it's hard to see how it can have a future or indeed any other tense in any case, even if it might otherwise lend meaning to the context in which you place it (which it doesn't). What possible connotation or relevance in any event might "Africa and all its tribes" have in the context concerned, in which nothing about Africa or tribes had been mentioned? Anyway, in a hopeful effort to erase all the confusion here, why not just assume that I wrote instead "If that's a sentence, I'm a bus driver"!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2016 8:54:39 GMT -5
For the record, I do have a neighbour who does use the word 'darkies', Sydney, although to be honest, I would class her as racist. Her class is a little more difficult to define, but 'middle' would be a pretty safe bet. Does that make me 'classist'? I find that I have to be very careful in my use of words which could be regarded as 'racist' or 'sexist', in particular, as I am not always sensitive to what may cause offence. A girl (of a different race) once called me a racist liar. I did not think, at the time, that I was being racist, or sexist, or for that matter, a liar, although I did apologise for any offence I may have caused. As for Black Star, on topic, 'black' currently seems to be a non-racist word, although this may well change. Black actors can find it difficult to find work, nor do they win many Oscars, so the British Film Institute (BFI) is promoting them. As for Asian stars, for example, Bollywood actors, there may be a preference for lighter skin colours, so does that make their film industry racist too? Of course, dark skin colour is preferable in strong sunshine, humanity evolved out of Africa, after all, so we are all of black descent, Sydney! BBC Two (television) - The Incredible Human Journey
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2016 1:22:35 GMT -5
... I find that I have to be very careful in my use of words which could be regarded as 'racist' or 'sexist', in particular, as I am not always sensitive to what may cause offence. A girl ... I wouldn't worry, kc. That's just a degenerate trans-Atlantic girls' game. It is up to them to notice you not up to you to notice them. It is you who are in charge. Hold firm to British upper and middle-class tradition and you will come through come what may.
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