With a slice of Battenberg no doubt
Mar 19, 2013 8:04:40 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2013 8:04:40 GMT -5
Mr. Thonemann is worried about dreams, and he has written in to consult us on the subject. He begins by recalling Mr. Masters's 1972 book entitled "Dreams about H. M. The Queen," wherein the conclusion is drawn that "up to one third of the country has dreamt about the Royal Family." And even more startlingly, "nearly fifty per cent of the dreams gathered for that book involve having tea with one or other member of the Family."
All those nocturnal cups of tea must mean something, reflects Mr. Thonemann; and he wonders, whether Royal tea dreams are still normal in 2013. Can any of our members assist him there I wonder?
Towards the end of his long piece, after touching upon Greek dreams and much else, he arrives at this thought from a Mr. Stewart:
"The divide between legitimate (rational) and illegitimate (irrational) histories needs to be questioned. A continuum runs from the historian's creatively imagining how things were in the past to ordinary individuals seeing the past in a trance or as disclosed in a dream - all forms of historical imagination. People in and out of the academy often apprehend the past immediately, viscerally, emotionally, dramatically, synæsthetically and visually, as participants. The future of history as a discipline may lie in the ability to engage audiences affectively as they they themselves already engage the past, and not just because of the social demands for understanding the past in an increasingly market-driven environment but also as a means of overcoming the exclusionism whereby historicism overrides the historical consciousness of others."
It is all rather involved is it not! Is he perhaps proposing to sell dreams in his "market"? But anyway, would members agree that the divide between legitimate and illegitimate histories needs to be questioned, and that dreamers are as good as historians? Think of it another way: are myths as good as logic?
All those nocturnal cups of tea must mean something, reflects Mr. Thonemann; and he wonders, whether Royal tea dreams are still normal in 2013. Can any of our members assist him there I wonder?
Towards the end of his long piece, after touching upon Greek dreams and much else, he arrives at this thought from a Mr. Stewart:
"The divide between legitimate (rational) and illegitimate (irrational) histories needs to be questioned. A continuum runs from the historian's creatively imagining how things were in the past to ordinary individuals seeing the past in a trance or as disclosed in a dream - all forms of historical imagination. People in and out of the academy often apprehend the past immediately, viscerally, emotionally, dramatically, synæsthetically and visually, as participants. The future of history as a discipline may lie in the ability to engage audiences affectively as they they themselves already engage the past, and not just because of the social demands for understanding the past in an increasingly market-driven environment but also as a means of overcoming the exclusionism whereby historicism overrides the historical consciousness of others."
It is all rather involved is it not! Is he perhaps proposing to sell dreams in his "market"? But anyway, would members agree that the divide between legitimate and illegitimate histories needs to be questioned, and that dreamers are as good as historians? Think of it another way: are myths as good as logic?
