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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2015 11:37:18 GMT -5
Good afternoon to you all once again! I trust that all is well with all of you. Suppose you have a free ticket to see Suffragette tomorrow evening at 19:00 (BST), Sydney. The ticket has no resale value, although kleines c would be willing to give it to ahinton instead.  On the night of the opening night gala, your next-best alternative entertainment is a film called Jia Zhangke, A Guy from Fenyang for which the tickets cost somewhere between £9 and £14.05. You like Jia Zhangke and would usually be willing to pay £10 for a ticket to see the documentary film about him. Is there an opportunity cost of using your free ticket and going to the opening night gala instead of ahinton?  Due to unprecedented demand from around the world, everyone reading ' The Third' is cordially invited to join us at the London Film Festival over the next fortnight. If you cannot make it in person, here is the trailer online: YouTube - Suffragette (2015) trailer - 59th BFI London Film Festival | BFI |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2015 19:11:32 GMT -5
What is most interesting about these "suffragettes" kc is the "-ette" part, where it came from, and when, and its signification.
The Oxford English Dictionary gives insufficient information here:
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"The older adoptions of French words in -ette, so far as they survive, are now written with -et; the spelling -ette belongs chiefly to words introduced since the seventeenth century, as chemisette, cigarette, eprouvette, etiquette, pipette, serviette. During the twentieth century a few words have been formed by the addition of -ette to English nouns; most of these, as leaderette, sermonette, essayette, can scarcely be said to be in good use, though often met with in newspapers; wagonette, however, is well established. Formations of this kind are very common in the names given by manufacturers to materials intended as imitations of something else: one such word which has come into general use is leatherette."
The first use cited appeared on the tenth of January 1906 in the Daily Mail, but it is likely is it not that that organ did not invent the word but had it from somewhere. We should then, and shall, undertake further etymological investigation.
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Post by ahinton on Oct 7, 2015 10:37:33 GMT -5
What is most interesting about these "suffragettes" kc is the "-ette" part, where it came from, and when, and its signification. The Oxford English Dictionary gives insufficient information here: . "The older adoptions of French words in -ette, so far as they survive, are now written with -et ...such as quartet, quintet, for example... The first use cited appeared on the tenth of January 1906 in the Daily Mail, but it is likely is it not that that organ did not invent the word but had it from somewhere. We should then, and shall, undertake further etymological investigation. Well, I wouldn't trust that rag to do anything worthwhile or trustworthy but no, I imagine, as you do, that the word is not one of its own invention, o I wish you luck with your further researches... |
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Post by ahinton on Oct 7, 2015 10:42:37 GMT -5
Good afternoon to you all once again! I trust that all is well with all of you. Suppose you have a free ticket to see Suffragette tomorrow evening at 19:00 (BST), Sydney. The ticket has no resale value, although kleines c would be willing to give it to ahinton instead. That's very kind, but I'd have been unable to make use of it. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 11:11:47 GMT -5
That's no problem, ahinton. I did not expect either you or Sydney to be able to make it to London tonight, so the legendary bb will be using the free ticket to the opening night gala instead, and we might well make the news tonight, too!  BBC Newsbeat - 'Why I stormed the red carpet at the premiere of the Suffragette film'According to Wikipedia, Sydney, the term "suffragette" was first used as a term of derision by the journalist Charles E. Hands in the London ' Daily Mail' for activists in the movement for women's suffrage, in particular members of the Women's Social and Political Union (WSPU). But the objects of the intended ridicule gladly embraced the term saying "suffraGETtes" (hardening the g) implied not only that they wanted the vote, but that they intended to get it as well. Wikipedia - SuffragetteMy own feeling would be every woman should wear Charles Hands's insult "suffragette" as a badge of honour, and that Sydney and I ought to circle the world in their support. Perhaps you have finally become a latter-day feminist, Sydney? By my calculation, there could be an opportunity cost of seeing Suffragette at Odeon Leicester Square, but only if the alternative costs less than a tenner. If you are a student, you can get into Jia Zhangke, A Guy from Fenyang for as little as £9, meaning that the opportunity cost could be as much as £1, assuming that Sydney would be willing to spend £10 in the first place. Wikipedia - Opportunity costSydney Morning Herald - At the coal face economists are struggling to measure upMy own suspicion would be that you could question, on any number of counts, whether there is an opportunity cost at all! Sydney would probably have to pay more, and would he want to go out tonight anyway? |
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Post by ahinton on Oct 7, 2015 15:29:05 GMT -5
That's no problem, ahinton. I did not expect either you or Sydney to be able to make it to London tonight, so the legendary bb will be using the free ticket to the opening night gala instead, and we might well make the news tonight, too! BBC News - Suffragette to open London Film FestivalAccording to Wikipedia, Sydney, the term "suffragette" was first used as a term of derision by the journalist Charles E. Hands in the London ' Daily Mail' for activists in the movement for women's suffrage, in particular members of the Women's Social and Political Union (WSPU). But the objects of the intended ridicule gladly embraced the term saying "suffraGETtes" (hardening the g) implied not only that they wanted the vote, but that they intended to get it as well. Wikipedia - SuffragetteMy own feeling would be every woman should wear Charles Hands's insult "suffragette" as a badge of honour, and that Sydney and I ought to circle the world in their support. Perhaps you have finally become a latter-day feminist, Sydney? By my calculation, there could be an opportunity cost of seeing Suffragette at Odeon Leicester Square, but only if the alternative costs less than a tenner. If you are a student, you can get into Jia Zhangke, A Guy from Fenyang for as little as £9, meaning that the opportunity cost could be as much as £1, assuming that Sydney would be willing to spend £10 in the first place. Wikipedia - Opportunity costSydney Morning Herald - At the coal face economists are struggling to measure upMy own suspicion would be that you could question, on any number of counts, whether there is an opportunity cost at all! Sydney would probably have to pay more anyway, and would he want to go out tonight anyway? To me, the very fact that a suffragette movement was even necessary in the first place is an indictment to humanity and human conduct; it should accordingly be regarded as an embarrassing reflection of the very paternalistic and patronising behaviour that made it inevitable. The mistreatment of and disrespect for women over the years is, however, a matter of more than mere embarrassment; in the centenary year of the UK Women's Institute, I recall the late Anthony Wedgwood Benn referring years ago to that august and worthy organisation as "the second class citizens' institute", meaning, of course, that far too many people seemed to be comfortable in regarding them as such, much to his obvious contempt and chagrin. A post in this forum by a member who claimed to have harboured no interest in women for some seven decades yet who nevertheless wrote most derisively of them is perhaps a case in point in our own time, albeit mercifully exceptional and a most unusual and unusually deplorable statement of attitude towards womankind... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2015 9:01:59 GMT -5
I thought that it was a really good film, although Camilla Long almost put me off going to see it! The Sunday Times - Culture - SuffragetteTo be honest, I think that Camilla got it wrong! It was a good story, even if not quite historical. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2015 8:12:11 GMT -5
Emily Gibbon . . . "No cliché has gone unturned in the creation of Maud, a plucky (tick) East End (tick) washerwoman ... " . . . It was a good story, even if not quite historical. Indeed kleines c; it is frequently and in general observed that as time passes the number of gaps and "inaccuracies" in all our histories increases uncontrollably, and they gradually become no more than tissues of imagination, which is to say stories. This is the case even in Gibbon's six volumes, despite his asseveration to the effect that "I have always endeavoured to draw from the fountain-head; that my curiosity, as well as a sense of duty, has always urged me to study the originals. . . ." |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2015 8:38:04 GMT -5
The gaps in history, or Edward Emily Gibbon's story, it could be argued, are her story, Sydney. Anyway, I think that you ought to go and see the film on Boxing Day!
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