The premise Oct 23, 2014 3:16:26 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 3:16:26 GMT -5
The creation and sharing of axioms will and indeed can do nothing in and of themselves to bring about what it is that you desire.
"In and of themselves" that is true. But they will be a beginning and there must be a beginning if anything is to be brought about.
But what comes next is only an incomparable display by the champion leap-frogger of southern England:
The world's major politicians
Irrelevant. No one in this thread has mentioned politicians or is likely to.
the will of the majority of its population
Equally irrelevant. Wait for the axioms!
a good idea and an affordable one
The idea may or may not even be the concern of the "majority of the population" - we shall see. As for "affordable" - no, it has already been pointed out that there will be no "money" in our Eutopia. The reasons for this will in due course be discussed in the thread entitled Money and its Abolition.
The abolition of nationhood and currency might well be an interesting one for intellectual discussion and speculation, but that is as far as such a concept is likely to get for the foreseeable future, for the reasons that I give above.
I disagree. The same was probably said to Marx, Engels and Lenin; but the "foreseeable future" for the first two was only about sixty years, and for Lenin it was done in his life-time. Think of yourself, Mr. H, as the Engels of the present day . . .
Kleines c asked you to define why the abolition of nations would be a good idea; you have yet to respond to that.
Exactly. So do please hold your horses and temper your enthusiasm!
The prospect that there will be no further wars between nations would be the only reason that might have suggested to me that it could be worthy of consideration were it not for the fact that warring between members of / factions within that one nation would not be discouraged by its establishment. The other principal stumbling block would, of course, be the fact that no one could be elected to govern such a nation; can you imagine how the peoples of, say, Canada, Nigeria, Thailand, Norway, Kazakhstan, Brazil and and New Zealand could ever reach agreement to vote for, support and be subject to the same governmental administration?!
Here the Member has leap-frogged into the distant future and it is all impossibly speculative. Let us come back to brass tacks and tackle Eutopia one point at a time.
And now in my next post I will propose four fundamental principles, and I will not respond to any more speculative leaps until we have discussed those principles and reached some sort of agreement based upon the input of all.