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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2013 10:10:09 GMT -5
It! All of us, ahinton, and for all time! What an achievement!
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Post by ahinton on Sept 27, 2013 10:45:24 GMT -5
It! All of us, ahinton, and for all time! What an achievement! You've lost me, I'm afraid (and not for the first time, I fear), to the extent that I don't get the connection between your statement and what was being discussed immediately before you made it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2013 11:01:55 GMT -5
We cannot but agree, ahinton! Unanimity has once again been achieved here in ' The Third'! Congratulations to all! Wikipedia - Animal FarmI propose some toast: to ahinton, Sydney Grew and everyone reading ' The Third'! Three cheers from kleines c and the gang (Friday dinner)!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2013 19:38:17 GMT -5
. . . one has only to consider just how much of a minority interest "Western classical music" (for dire and desperate want of a more suitable term) is - and just how much of a minority interest within that minority interest so much music is that falls within its general scope. A lot of that applies only to Great Britain, now a corrupt and - as the member says - desperate land, the inhabitants of which lead intemperate, dissolute, and vicious lives, daily wasting their moral and physical powers. The educational system has failed, it is as simple as that. Turn to Finland, turn to Czechia, turn to Austria (despite its history), turn to Russia, turn to Greece, or turn to Siam and you will find good and serious music arising naturally out of the circumstances of their several populations and the influences in which their youth is permitted and encouraged to partake and indulge. The remedy is at once to clamp down upon overstepping and eliminate trivial forms of pseudo-music! But the authorities themselves have by this time no notion. One suggestion: those elements of the police who until recently devoted their enthusiastic days to the pursuit of homo-sexualists and who now we presume sit around idly pondering and twiddling might readily be regrouped into a brave and proud "music police" squad.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2013 23:55:29 GMT -5
I doubt that I should even attempt to impose my own musical tastes on the rest of the population of London, Great Britain and the wider world, Sydney. Of course, there is a sense in which I do, but only by inviting everyone to various musical events, for example, skating with Bad Zuke at Somerset House over the Christmas holidays, and not only here in ' The Third'. It can be a dangerous undertaking, although Jason once came along. The Third - Calendar - Skate (20:00 on Thursday 2 January 2014)We cannot even make one straight thing out of the crooked timber of humanity! Yet can we conceive that humanity is only itself when it is a sign of what is other, and following on from that, what is the cost of continuing to affirm such a humanity in a world that will constantly appear to deny it? These are questions which are at once literary, theological and political, and unmistakably contemporary.
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Post by ahinton on Sept 28, 2013 10:02:36 GMT -5
. . . one has only to consider just how much of a minority interest "Western classical music" (for dire and desperate want of a more suitable term) is - and just how much of a minority interest within that minority interest so much music is that falls within its general scope. A lot of that applies only to Great Britain, now a corrupt and - as the member says - desperate land If by "the member" here you refer to me, I did (and would) not use the term "desperate" to describe present-day Britain but, as you can see above, in the context of the usage of the term "Western classical music", for the sole purpose of illustrating what I see as the "dire and desperate" need for a better one to take its place. the inhabitants of which lead intemperate, dissolute, and vicious lives, daily wasting their moral and physical powers. What? All of them? Thank you very much, S.G.! I am one of those inhabitants! I do enjoy a gin and tonic and, at other times, a Pineau des Charentes, a cognac, a fine single malt whisky from my homeland or decent wine (although this last only as an accompaniment to dinner) but would not describe myself as "intemperate" as a consequence, I think it unreasonable to describe me as "dissolute and vicious" (especially with no legitimate grounds upon which to do so) and, whilst you do not know how I spend my days, I take issue with your implied criticism of my morals and, as I never attend the gym or indulge in sports, dancing or the like, I don't "waste" such physical powers as I may have. The educational system has failed, it is as simple as that. Turn to Finland, turn to Czechia, turn to Austria (despite its history), turn to Russia, turn to Greece, or turn to Siam and you will find good and serious music arising naturally out of the circumstances of their several populations and the influences in which their youth is permitted and encouraged to partake and indulge. Whilst the situation for the performance and acceptance of music is indeed better in some countries than it is in present-day Britain, it's better there than in quite a few other countries. Russia and Greece are both in parlous economic states right now anyway. El Sistema has hardly done any disfavours in Venezuela, despite the foul régime under which it began to flourish. "Siam"? Thailand, for heaven's sake! - as indeed it has been since mid-1939 apart from some time in 1945 until mid-May 1949. A problem requiring remedy must first be established as such and not only in the mind of just one person! is at once to clamp down upon overstepping and eliminate trivial forms of pseudo-music! But the authorities themselves have by this time no notion. But who should decide which musics may so be described? You? A government in which the Prime Minister, when recently asked who composed Rule, Britannia!, answered, "er - not sure - Elgar, was it?" One suggestion: those elements of the police who until recently devoted their enthusiastic days to the pursuit of homo-sexualists and who now we presume sit around idly pondering and twiddling might readily be regrouped into a brave and proud "music police" squad. Whatever makes you think that police who used at one time to pursue homosexuals (which in any case has not offically been done since homosexuality became legal in Britain and, as you know, that wasn't exactly last week) would sudddenly be able to acquire sufficient knowledge of music to qualify them to do any such thing? How should they go about such action and where? The police must in any case act within the law and are supposedly charged with upholding the law, so where would be the law permitting them to take such action, whatever in any case it might be? And for what I hope will be the last time, will you please review those names of musicians that I mentioned some while ago and answer my question to you about them? Thank you in advance!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2013 3:16:28 GMT -5
I enjoyed a mix of music at the weekend.
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