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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2013 4:08:41 GMT -5
Good morning to you all! Happy St George's Day! We may be about half way through spring in the Northern Hemisphere, Sydney Grew, but it is rather late in England this year! To be honest, I am not entirely sure when spring begins and when it ends. Any ideas? I tend to define it as the months of March, April and May, at least here in the United Kingdom (UK). So if spring starts on St David's Day, 1 March, we are, on that basis, just over half way through on St George's Day. In England and Wales, March and Easter were exceptionally cold in 2013, and many daffodils are still out! There is no sign of English roses for St George's Day! Due to unprecedented demand from around the world, here are some St George's Day recipes for everyone reading ' The Third', from traditional puds to brilliant bangers and mash, to help you celebrate in style. In particular, I should like to recommend a Bakewell tart for afternoon tea! For dinner, I shall be cooking Shepherd's Pie this evening! BBC Good Food - St George's Day recipes One of the purposes of this particular online discussion forum is to raise the bar for broadcasting in the digital age, so to speak, not only for BBC Radio 3, but also for television, cinema and other media. It therefore seems appropriate to discuss programmes which we consider to have particular significance or merit, Sydney Grew. ' The Guardian' leads today with some editorial comment in praise of … Broadchurch. For all its red herrings, over-acting and absurd coincidences, Broadchurch feels like a game-changer in whodunnits.By now, you either know who killed Danny Latimer or you have not been one of the 7m viewers who have made ITV's ' Broadchurch' the most cheering TV drama of the season. Cheering may seem an odd word to use in connection with a drama that features eight episodes saturated with a child murder, paedophilia allegations and horrifyingly unprofessional policing. But for all its faults (red herrings, over-acting and absurd coincidences a speciality), Broadchurch feels like a game-changer in British whodunnits. ' The Guardian' defends thus: [/b] I commend ' Broadchurch' to everyone reading ' The Third'. ITV Player - Broadchurch
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2013 7:08:36 GMT -5
Thank you for your recommendation kleines c - upon following the link you provided I encountered several screens such as this: so was obliged to go over the mountains. I have now watched episode one and I trust and accept your - and the Guardian's - assurance that the series will become gripping.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2013 10:22:10 GMT -5
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Post by Gerard on Apr 23, 2013 19:37:01 GMT -5
Your FT is a bit Jewy kleines c - I followed the link and wanted to read the article about an old-fashioned apple pie. But I was asked all sorts of impertinent questions about my "job responsibility" whatever that might mean - so gave up on them. Is the FT really a mirror of England to-day, or a sign of something more sinister?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2013 0:05:20 GMT -5
. . . many daffodils are still out! There is no sign of English roses for St George's Day! . . . As it happens a lady has written in from Greece to tell us about flowers - and potatoes: In the Greek country-side, she tells us, asphodel, "that dreamy flower," is everywhere in bloom, whole meadows of it under the olive-trees. It is a weed, basically, if a tall one with a storied name - our "daffodil" is a jumbled misspelling of it. Robert Graves in a charming and discursive essay talks about asphodel the plant as opposed to the poetic notion: that beds of asphodel, for instance ( pace Tennyson), would be prickly and not conducive to rest. And that they thrive on poor, over-grazed soil. Ideal spots for Elysian fields. In the twilight their spears of pale white stars do have a ghostly aspect - they sway in the breeze like a chorus from Giselle. Hesiod is perhaps the only Greek poet after Homer - perhaps the only poet besides Graves - not to romanticize them. For Hesiod, the asphodel was a poor man's insurance against famine - free for the taking, plentiful and nourishing. Their tubers once held that place in the peasant diet that potatoes would later.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2013 1:37:45 GMT -5
Good morning to you all! I trust that everyone reading ' The Third' enjoyed St George's Day yesterday! I can report that I cooked a delicious Shepherd's Pie to celebrate, and great fun was had by all! If I may nevertheless address your question directly, Gerard: " ... Your FT is a bit Jewy kleines c - I followed the link and wanted to read the article about an old-fashioned apple pie. But I was asked all sorts of impertinent questions about my "job responsibility" whatever that might mean - so gave up on them. Is the FT really a mirror of England to-day, or a sign of something more sinister?" In this particular case, I would suggest that it is both. A little historical explanation would probably help here. When I first started posting on online discussion forums at the beginning of the twenty-first century, I chose FT.com, which had just launched itself as a digital newspaper. The reason I chose ' The Financial Times' was because I read the FT at work, and I perceived it to be quite an authoritative source of news, particularly in the business world, perhaps even more so than the BBC. A few years later, the FT decided to charge its users for online access, so you have to subscribe to the FT to get full access to its articles. The FT also decided to close down its online discussion forums and replace them with blogs, as, indeed, did BBC Radio 3 with its message boards many years later. The reason why the FT is now asking you all sorts of questions, Gerard, is because it is trying to find out a lot more about you, and encourage you to subscribe to FT.com. In this sense, the FT is both one mirror, amongst many, of England today, and a sign of something more sinister! As for the asphodel, the daffodil and the potato, Sydney Grew, here is an online dictionary definition of the potato: Free Dictionary - PotatoIn slang, a hot potato can be defined as a delicate or awkward matter. I suppose that the delicate or awkward matter which concerns ' The Third', just like FT.com, is who are its readers? Who are its listeners? Who is its wider audience? Relatively few people read the FT. Even fewer people read ' The Third'. Indeed, despite its presence on the world wide web, I would define this thread as a relatively private conversation between Gerard, kleines c and Sydney Grew. Other members of ' The Third' may choose to follow this particular discussion, but very few other people at all, even though more than a billion people now have access to the world wide web. The hot potato is whether we want to take an inclusive or an exclusive approach to the world wide web. Is this particular thread for everyone, or only for those whom we choose to communicate with? It is arguably for both, either and neither, depending upon the circumstances?
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Post by neilmcgowan on Apr 24, 2013 3:53:53 GMT -5
St George is also the patron saint of Moscow, so Moscow was celebrating too.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2013 4:41:04 GMT -5
. . . despite its presence on the world wide web, I would define this thread as a relatively private conversation between [Mr. McGowan, Mr. Hinton], Gerard, kleines c and Sydney Grew. Other members of ' The Third' may choose to follow this particular discussion, but very few other people at all, even though more than a billion people now have access to the world wide web. . . . Yes I see the problem. The trouble at the Art-Musics was that you went right off topic in the musical threads, which would have disconcerted many of the more disconcertable contributors. How about if, at the Art-Musics, I set up "kleine's corner" - whimsical commentary on anything and everything? And this time permit every one to see it and contribute. That way a) you would have a lot more potential conversationalists (which is good) and b) the more semi-serious but easily disconcerted types could ignore it if they wished to (which also is good). I could of course submit many of my TLS extracts there. And keep this forum going as well for anything super-outlandish.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2013 6:34:46 GMT -5
If I may take this opportunity to criticise myself, 'kleines c', Sydney Grew, I obviously have an idiosyncratic style of writing online which is immediately recognisable from the different ways in which I construct a posting, and from the different ways in which I pursue an argument. You, Sydney Grew, are in a position to have observed these postings over the best part of a decade in a wide variety of different forums, some of which you yourself created.
As far as music is concerned, I am most unlikely to comment directly on a piece of music, or on a particular performance, apart from to say whether I liked it or not. You will understand some of the reasons, Sydney Grew. I am, however, far more likely to introduce a tangent to many such discussions. If you would prefer me to withdraw from this particular discussion forum, that is fine with kleines c, because I understand that my online presence is not necessarily beneficial to its future development. Thank you all for your forbearance over so many years!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2013 7:11:19 GMT -5
. . . If you would prefer me to withdraw from this particular discussion forum . . . Certainly not kleines c! I am suggesting that we all continue in this forum, and I am proposing that you participate in the A-M forum as well, where there are many more members. Does the prospect not fill you with pleasure? And forget music - in neither forum need you say a word about music should you not wish to.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2013 7:24:08 GMT -5
Thank you for the clarification, Sydney Grew. I just logged back on to ' The Art-Music Forum', if only to refresh my memory about what I had written there. The Art-Music Forum - Bolters and JokersWhat you created was a ' Bolters and Jokers' board, where I contributed. Do you wish to retain this particular structure, Sydney Grew? The trouble is, I don't really know what to post there today. I should therefore be grateful for any suggestions.
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Post by neilmcgowan on Apr 24, 2013 8:44:28 GMT -5
It seems to me that there are already many quiet nooks on the Art-Music forum where current affairs, philosophy, the arts and so forth might be usefully pursued? The main thing is to work towards inclusion of the existing community and expansion of it
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2013 10:27:00 GMT -5
Most of the things I try to say are misunderstood as soon as I say them. If I ever try to write a book about philosophy, it will be misinterpreted from the first sentence to the last. Perhaps that has been the fate of all philosophers.
Yes I agree with Mr. McGowan about the quiet nooks.
So let us, kleines c, now exchange PMs about what - if anything - you would like to set up at the Art Musics.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2013 12:36:27 GMT -5
To be misunderstood is not uncommon, Sydney Grew, so I would not be particularly worried about it. In fact, it would be surprising if we were not all, in some way, misunderstood. We can but try!
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