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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 12:36:14 GMT -5
I hereby commission an oratorio from Alistair Hinton, using the text of his choice. We shall send it to BBC Proms for performance next summer! Thank you very much indeed for your assistance in this matter. All the best! c.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2017 22:38:20 GMT -5
How about using the Book of Job as your text, Alistair. The King James Version is probably the most majestic! It begins thus: Chapter 1 should suffice, Alistair! How about it? Bible Gateway - Job 1
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 2:39:07 GMT -5
Do you accept the commission, Alistair?
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Post by ahinton on Sept 17, 2017 5:53:57 GMT -5
Do you accept the commission, Alistair? You are very kind indeed but I'm afraid that I would really rather decline, given what I already have on at the moment and the fact that your suggested text has little appeal for me; I hope very much that I cause no offence in so saying.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 9:27:44 GMT -5
If I may address your final point directly, Alistair: Do you accept the commission, Alistair? You are very mind indeed but I'm afraisd that I would really rather decline, given what I already have on at the moment and the fact that your suggested text has little appeal for me; I hope very much that I cause no offence in so saying. Take your time, Alistair! How about Job 42 instead? Bible Gateway - King James Version - Job 42
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Post by ahinton on Sept 17, 2017 10:20:29 GMT -5
If I may address your final point directly, Alistair: You are very kind indeed but I'm afraid that I would really rather decline, given what I already have on at the moment and the fact that your suggested text has little appeal for me; I hope very much that I cause no offence in so saying. Take your time, Alistair! How about Job 42 instead? Bible Gateway - King James Version - Job 42Apologies for the mistypings in my previous response (now duly corrected); I fear that this other section of the Book of Job doesn't appeal to me to set any more than your first one. I'm so sorry about that.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 10:41:58 GMT -5
How about something without words then, Alistair?
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Post by ahinton on Sept 17, 2017 10:55:18 GMT -5
How about something without words then, Alistair? That might be an idea...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 11:38:09 GMT -5
Could you score it for a full orchestra please, Alistair?
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Post by ahinton on Sept 17, 2017 12:10:39 GMT -5
Could you score it for a full orchestra please, Alistair? I see no reason why not.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 12:46:21 GMT -5
Well, it should keep you busy, Alistair! Let me know if I can help! Also let me know when you have finished the score, and we shall then work out what to do with it. Uncle Henry could help?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2017 4:58:00 GMT -5
I should quite like to hear a symphonic statement about the world as you see it, Alistair, even in a mere 27 minutes. Brevity is the soul of wit!
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Post by ahinton on Sept 21, 2017 5:29:05 GMT -5
I should quite like to hear a symphonic statement about the world as you see it, Alistair, even in a mere 27 minutes. Brevity is the soul of wit! The work will indeed be a symphonic statement, though not likely a symphony per se. As to it being "about the world as (I) see it", that would be quite another matter, as I am disinclined to believe that that a symphonic work for orchestra alone without vocal soloists and/or choir either would or could - still less should - convey any such thing to everyone who listens to it! Words are for that kind of thing. You have, for example, asked several questions of me here that relate directly or indirectly to bits and pieces of my world view and, having just caught up with them earlier this morning, I have endeavoured to answer them using the same medium as that in which you posed them - words. As I wrote elsewhere recently, Stravinsky's famous no-so-very-bon mot about music being incapable of expressing anthing beyond itself seems to me to be seeking the truth of what it can do but failing properly to find it; whoever it was that claimed for music that it was capable of expressing everything but naming nothing was far closer to the mark. The word "about" here is perhaps at the nub of the issue here; I think that it was Vaughan Williams who, when asked what one of his symphonies was "about", retorted "thirty-five minutes"! Anyway, do feel free to continue this exchange via email, my address being sorabji.archive@gmail.com .
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2017 12:22:49 GMT -5
If I may address your final point directly, Alistair: I should quite like to hear a symphonic statement about the world as you see it, Alistair, even in a mere 27 minutes. Brevity is the soul of wit! The work will indeed be a symphonic statement, though not likely a symphony per se. As to it being "about the world as (I) see it", that would be quite another matter, as I am disinclined to believe that that a symphonic work for orchestra alone without vocal soloists and/or choir either would or could - still less should - convey any such thing to everyone who listens to it! Words are for that kind of thing. You have, for example, asked several questions of me here that relate directly or indirectly to bits and pieces of my world view and, having just caught up with them earlier this morning, I have endeavoured to answer them using the same medium as that in which you posed them - words. As I wrote elsewhere recently, Stravinsky's famous no-so-very-bon mot about music being incapable of expressing anthing beyond itself seems to me to be seeking the truth of what it can do but failing properly to find it; whoever it was that claimed for music that it was capable of expressing everything but naming nothing was far closer to the mark. The word "about" here is perhaps at the nub of the issue here; I think that it was Vaughan Williams who, when asked what one of his symphonies was "about", retorted "thirty-five minutes"! Anyway, do feel free to continue this exchange via email, my address being sorabji.archive@gmail.com . Yes, but as Ludwig Wittgenstein pointed out, words do not convey reality so much as distortions of reality, through jokes, for example. Reality itself is arguably unknowable! Ask not for meaning, Alistair; ask for use!
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Post by ahinton on Sept 21, 2017 15:58:45 GMT -5
If I may address your final point directly, Alistair: The work will indeed be a symphonic statement, though not likely a symphony per se. As to it being "about the world as (I) see it", that would be quite another matter, as I am disinclined to believe that that a symphonic work for orchestra alone without vocal soloists and/or choir either would or could - still less should - convey any such thing to everyone who listens to it! Words are for that kind of thing. You have, for example, asked several questions of me here that relate directly or indirectly to bits and pieces of my world view and, having just caught up with them earlier this morning, I have endeavoured to answer them using the same medium as that in which you posed them - words. As I wrote elsewhere recently, Stravinsky's famous no-so-very-bon mot about music being incapable of expressing anthing beyond itself seems to me to be seeking the truth of what it can do but failing properly to find it; whoever it was that claimed for music that it was capable of expressing everything but naming nothing was far closer to the mark. The word "about" here is perhaps at the nub of the issue here; I think that it was Vaughan Williams who, when asked what one of his symphonies was "about", retorted "thirty-five minutes"! Anyway, do feel free to continue this exchange via email, my address being sorabji.archive@gmail.com . Yes, but as Ludwig Wittgenstein pointed out, words do not convey reality so much as distortions of reality, through jokes, for example. Reality itself is arguably unknowable! Ask not for meaning, Alistair; ask for use! Point taken, of course, but the inadequacies of words and what they can do can only enhance the sense of what music can do which words can't, methinks!
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