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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2017 6:52:07 GMT -5
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Post by ahinton on Sept 6, 2017 11:41:38 GMT -5
Yes - mostly of her own making. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2017 13:01:29 GMT -5
Should she never have called an unnecessary election?
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Post by ahinton on Sept 6, 2017 15:29:07 GMT -5
Should she never have called an unnecessary election? Since it was indeed unnecessary, of course she should not have done so; that speaks for itself, surely? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2017 20:46:00 GMT -5
Well, we don't always do what we need to do. With the benefit of hindsight, the current British Prime Minister, Theresa May, was foolish to call an election, but at the time, it was regarded, politically, as smart, even ruthless. Anyway, it is now almost impossible for her to pursue a hard Brexit, although we may still have little choice in the matter. The London ' Times' leads this morning with some editorial comment on a Jacobite Uprising. ' The Times' thunders that Jacob Rees-Mogg’s views are sincerely held but out of kilter with modern Britain. His appeal as a leading Brexiteer are such that he could well become the darling of this year's Conservative Party Conference in Manchester. Conservative Party Conference - ManchesterAs such, he is a most unlikely challenger to Theresa May's leadership of the Conservative Party in 2017. Of course, he could still lead the Conservative Party into the next UK General Election, but could he persuade the electorate to vote for his 'Jacobite' policies? |
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Post by ahinton on Sept 7, 2017 5:37:59 GMT -5
Well, we don't always do what we need to do. With the benefit of hindsight, the current British Prime Minister, Theresa May, was foolish to call an election, but at the time, it was regarded, politically, as smart, even ruthless. Anyway, it is now almost impossible for her to pursue a hard Brexit, although we may still have little choice in the matter. The London ' Times' leads this morning with some editorial comment on a Jacobite Uprising. ' The Times' thunders that Jacob Rees-Mogg’s views are sincerely held but out of kilter with modern Britain. His appeal as a leading Brexiteer are such that he could well become the darling of this year's Conservative Party Conference in Manchester. Conservative Party Conference - ManchesterAs such, he is a most unlikely challenger to Theresa May's leadership of the Conservative Party in 2017. Of course, he could still lead the Conservative Party into the next UK General Election, but could he persuade the electorate to vote for his 'Jacobite' policies? Calling the most recent UK General Election was indeed a foolhardy step motivated by what the result soon showed to be unwarranted arrogance and smugness on May's part; the outcome in the longer term, however, has so far pricipally been that of piling uncertainty and confusion upon what is already an uncertain and confused political climate in UK. Doubts hang over the length of May's Prime Ministerial tenure but at the same time there seems to be no clear alternative leader, Mr Sheep Rees-Cat perhaps being the most unlikely despite being one of the most trumpeted. His views on abortion are reprehensible at the very least but those on same-sex marriage demonstrate that he is in fact against what is now the law. The former view, purportedly based as it is upon his belief in the sacrosanctity of life, lacks credibility by not even being consistent with itself. A woman who is pregnant as a consequence of rape might well have suffered physical injuries that could lead to adverse medical consequences for her - or even in some cases the risk of death - should she not abort. If JR-M believes that, even in such circumstances, abortion should be forbidden, he reveals that he values the sacrosanctity of the life of the unborn child above that of the living mother; why? I would question whether anyone who holds such bizarre views is fit to be in politics at all, let alone to be a husband and the parent of half a dozen children; I might also wonder whether he would seek to force his wife to give birth if she'd been raped, irrespective of the circumstances and the possible consequences for her. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2017 8:43:21 GMT -5
What shocks me, ahinton, is that someone of Jacob Rees-Mogg's world-class education and undoubted intelligence should espouse such ridiculous views. If he is the best that the Tories now have to offer, the Conservative Party is finished. Fortunately, the three current favourites to succeed Theresa May are all front benchers. The smart money is currently on David Davis, Phillip Hammond and Boris Johnson. Whether they, or anyone else, could actually deliver 'Brexit' is less certain!
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Post by ahinton on Sept 7, 2017 11:57:09 GMT -5
What shocks me, ahinton, is that someone of Jacob Rees-Mogg's world-class education and undoubted intelligence should espouse such ridiculous views. If he is the best that the Tories now have to offer, the Conservative Party is finished. Fortunately, the three current favourites to succeed Theresa May are all front benchers. The smart money is currently on David Davis, Phillip Hammond and Boris Johnson. Whether they, or anyone else, could actually deliver 'Brexit' is less certain! I agree entirely about JR-M but don't believe that there are any real or credible "favourites" as successors to May and I certainly wouldn't give much for the chances of any of the three whom you mention. I doubt that any of them could deliver Brexit but also hope that they'll stop pretending to try a.s.a.p.! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2017 12:50:39 GMT -5
When I was younger, ahinton, Jacob Rees-Mogg's father, Baron Rees-Mogg of Hinton Blewett in the County of Avon, was a columnist and former distinguished Editor of 'The Times' (William Rees-Mogg). He once met me during a performance of 'Don Giovanni' at the Royal Opera House, Covent Garden, and wrote a blistering attack on my choice of clothes in the following morning's 'Times'. He thus became my greatest adversary on Fleet Street! Although William died some years ago, his son seems to be following in the family tradition!
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Post by ahinton on Sept 7, 2017 15:21:50 GMT -5
When I was younger, ahinton, Jacob Rees-Mogg's father, Baron Rees-Mogg of Hinton Blewett in the County of Avon, was a columnist and former distinguished Editor of ' The Times' (William Rees-Mogg). He once met me during a performance of ' Don Giovanni' at the Royal Opera House, Covent Garden, and wrote a blistering attack on my choice of clothes in the following morning's ' Times'. He thus became my greatest adversary on Fleet Street! Although William died some years ago, his son seems to be following in the family tradition! Aaargh! Tradition! Against which Busoni so wisely inveighed. I'm sorry that you had ever to have someting to do with any Rees-Mogg. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2017 22:48:44 GMT -5
If I may address your final comment directly, ahinton: " ... Aaargh! Tradition! Against which Busoni so wisely inveighed. I'm sorry that you had ever to have someting to do with any Rees-Mogg." This is what William Rees-Mogg had to write about homosexuality and paedophilia in the Roman Catholic tradition before he died: We cannot but agree? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 22:42:09 GMT -5
The London ' Times' leads on Saturday 9 September 2017 with some editorial comment on paralysis in Downing Street. ' The Times' thunders that Theresa May, the British prime minister, is a caretaker adrift. She needs to raise her game, and raise her gaze beyond her party’s warring cliques. Yet she is caught out by her own obvious weakness, no parliamentary majority and the ever present weakness of a direct challenge to her leadership of the Conservative Party, even at Manchester this autumn. So should Heathrow be developed as London's new transport hub, or is the age of transportation already beyond new capacity along the M4? I would reluctantly go for a second runway at Gatwick, on the basis that it could be developed more easily, even if it is further from the rest of the country. It is close enough to London, ahinton, and that is the only measure that really counts. As for housing (and Grenfell), social housing policy is in a mess. Social tenants cannot all expect to have a penthouse on the King's Road in Chelsea, although it is surprising that they are even offered accommodation in such an expensive part of London. It is inevitable that they will have to move to cheaper areas around the capital, as millions of commuters look to find affordable accommodation closer to their places of work, study and play. We cannot all live within walking distance of the Royal Albert Hall and the City, Uncle Henry.  Theresa May would be best advised to send for someone to rescue her in Manchester. Uncle Henry, ahinton, even kleines c? He could deliver a barnstorming speech about the merits of an ever closer union of the peoples of Europe, and suspend the tricky Brexit negotiations in Brussels forever. David Davis could lead his troops to Waterloo, and raise his standard against a resurgent Napoleon Bonaparte. Liam Fox could march on Berlin and give Angela Merkel some help in sorting about euro finances. Greece could relaunch the drachma, Italy could relaunch the lira and Germany could regain its beloved Deutschmark. The euro could remain Europe's common rather than single currency, and Greek debt could be refinanced only if there was some prospect of economic growth in the Mediterranean basin. The United Kingdom could once again become a leader in Europe, rather than a reluctant leaver, and the Last Night of the Proms could be a celebration of world unity, rather than of lost Empire. |
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