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Post by neilmcgowan on Mar 15, 2013 6:23:11 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2013 7:20:38 GMT -5
According to Chiara Bottici, writing for Al Jazeera, opera is actually dead, because nobody can listen to it any more. Opera has allegedly been killed by her wicked stepsister, the soap opera, Neil McGowan. Al Jazeera - The death of opera: A funeral eulogyIf opera has been killed, Chiara concludes, why is it still hanging around? Who is trying to keep it artificially alive? Of course, this is not entirely true. Plenty of people, including kleines c, vastly prefer opera to soap. Why have soap when you can still have the real thing, Neil McGowan? BBC - EastEndersThis is not to argue that soap opera is rather more popular than opera in the twenty-first century. But given the choice of ' EastEnders' or ' Medea' tonight, is there really any contest at all? ENO - Medea
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Post by neilmcgowan on Mar 15, 2013 7:43:25 GMT -5
I think Chiara Bottici has been roundly spanked on the internet for the silliness of this article, which has been reprinted all over the online world
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Post by ahinton on Mar 15, 2013 8:26:21 GMT -5
I think Chiara Bottici has been roundly spanked on the internet for the silliness of this article, which has been reprinted all over the online world Spanked Bottici or no spanked Bottici, the sheer absurdity of this is sadly nothing new; some people - one "egregious and notorious specimen in particular" (as Sorabji would have described such a person) - have been banging on about "the death of classical music" and "the death of classical recordings" for years, yet the "classical" CD tally remains firmly and resolutely on the increase. As to the even more absurd observations about opera and soap opera, Britain has been broadcasting one of the latter since only a handful of years after the première of Peter Grimes but there has unsurprisingly been not a shred of evidence of its having usurped the place of opera in Britain. I suppose that I must have read something dafter than this at some point but I'm blest if I can recall when and what it was...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2013 8:45:11 GMT -5
I suppose that there is a more serious question to be asked here, ahinton. Why should politicians, for example, be embarrassed to admit their interest in serious culture, including opera? A football match is fine, but a night at the opera? Forget it, Neil McGowan! According to Charlotte Higgins, writing in her ' Guardian' Blog, there is a continuing little squall over at the Telegraph's Mandrake column about the fact that chancellor George Osborne, culture minister Ed Vaizey and education secretary Michael Gove apparently bunked off work in September to attend performances, beginning at 4pm, of the Ring at the Royal Opera House, as guests of Tony Hall. Guardian - Michael Gove and George Osborne love Wagner. So why doesn't passion turn into policy?Now, kleines c happens to think that this was a really good idea for the UK Chancellor of the Exchequer. Let me explain why! The Ring is, in one sense, a dodgy real estate deal which goes horribly wrong, a little like the current and ongoing global financial crisis. The plot revolves around a magic ring that grants the power to rule the world, forged by the Nibelung dwarf Alberich from gold he stole from the Rhine maidens in the river Rhine. With the assistance of Loge, Wotan — the chief of the gods — steals the Ring from Alberich, but is forced to hand it over to the giants, Fafner and Fasolt. Wotan's schemes to regain the Ring, spanning generations, drive much of the action in the story. His grandson, the mortal Siegfried, wins the ring — as Wotan intended — but is eventually betrayed and slain as a result of the intrigues of Alberich's son Hagen. Finally, the Valkyrie Brünnhilde — Siegfried's lover and Wotan's estranged daughter — returns the ring to the Rhine maidens. In the process, the gods and their home, Valhalla, are destroyed. Begun in the Revolutionary Years of 1848 and 1849, and occupying Wagner for a quarter-century, the Ring is one of the most extended of all artistic creations. Wagner binds this structure of over fifteen hours' duration with a complex web of Leitmotive (in English, leading motives). Each Leitmotif is a brief musical idea (usually a bit of melody but sometimes a harmonic or rhythmic idea) which stands for something in the drama often a character, but just as often an event, memory, or abstract idea. Through thematic transformation, the important players and events of the drama take on new guises and implications. For instance, in just the first scene of the first opera of the four, the all-important motif of the Rhine Gold, a joyful and sparkling song when first heard, transforms itself into a baleful denunciation of love and a symbol of evil power when dominion is gained over it by a character who denounces love. The idea of world-controlling power is extended to the well-intentioned world of the Gods at the end of this scene, when it is transformed again into the noble theme of Valhalla, their castle above the Rhine. The basic conflict in the Ring cycle occurs between Alberich, a dwarf who has gained dominion over the power of Gold. With it he can gain control of an army of slaves who can manufacture the weapons and wealth that will make him invincible; he can rule strictly through power and money. Thus he seeks to overthrow the existing world order, headed by the god Wotan, who rules through the power of honour, that is, the keeping of contracts. All the contracts of the world are symbolically impaled on the shaft of his spear, which he cut from a magic tree called the World-Ash Tree after sacrificing one of his eyes for it in order to gain the hand of the goddess Fricka. Alberich and Wotan are, thus, mirror images of each other, the one having sacrificed love itself to gain unbounded power; the other having sacrificed to gain love and to rule in a power that both controls and is bound by the idea of honour. Fricka, for her part, is the goddess of marriage, enforcing that contract in her own right. Wotan could never really be trusted to pay for his mighty fortress, Valhalla. The dwarf Alberich, no relation of kleines c, renounces love and steals the Rhinegold, from which he forges a magic ring. Meanwhile Wotan, chief of the gods, has built his mighty fortress Valhalla with the help of the giants. But in order to pay them back, Wotan in turn needs to steal the Rhinegold back from Alberich. And so with this double theft Wagner sets up the theme of love versus power that reverberates throughout all four dramas of Wagner's epic Ring cycle. In my opinion, George Osborne could not have spent his free time better last September!
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Post by neilmcgowan on Mar 15, 2013 9:15:16 GMT -5
Frankly I think it's very good that Messers Vaizey and Osbourne went to The Ring. It might serve to remind them of the excellent value Britain gets from the subsidised arts - before it occurs to them to savage the Arts budget still further And it sets a good example to the country as a whole As for your woe-telling sybil, Mr H, I have a fair idea who you have in mind I noticed that in the comments in the Grauniad about Mr Pappano's silly remarks, someone took the time to take your soothsayer to pieces Someone should write a book about him - perhaps it could be called the Mouthpiece Myth? The true story of someone without a clue about practical musicmaking, who nevertheless affects a knowledge of it!
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Post by ahinton on Mar 15, 2013 10:37:07 GMT -5
Frankly I think it's very good that Messers Vaizey and Osbourne went to The Ring. It might serve to remind them of the excellent value Britain gets from the subsidised arts - before it occurs to them to savage the Arts budget still further And it sets a good example to the country as a whole It might at least in theory serve so to remind them, but I'm sadly not about to hold my breath. The excellent value that you mention should set a good example to the country as a whole, but I'm far less certain that the attendance of these two at that astonishing work is likely to do so. I note that no one thought to invite Dave - but then as someone who's reported to have answered "I'm not sure; Elgar, was it?" to the question "who composed Rule, Britannia?" probably wouldn't know a Rhinemaiden from a rhinestone, I doubt that there'd have been much point, really... As for your woe-telling sybil, Mr H, I have a fair idea who you have in mind No! Really?! (and, by the way, I no more have a soothsayer than I have a Babbitt - just thought that I'd mention that en passant)... Someone should write a book about him - perhaps it could be called the Mouthpiece Myth? The true story of someone without a clue about practical musicmaking, who nevertheless affects a knowledge of it! Intriguing as your proposed title is, it might be hard to repeat ten times in succession after a couple of glasses of the Roederer Cristal with which the two abovementioned Tories doubtless sought to drown their Ringed sorrows lately; perhaps, given this self-determined "death of classical music" mantra, Hangmen Also Die! might work...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2013 11:05:01 GMT -5
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Post by ahinton on Mar 15, 2013 12:40:53 GMT -5
Reports of the death of Klinghoffer, on the other hand oops! - wrong thread! (and I was only joking anyway)...
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Post by Gerard on Mar 15, 2013 23:16:44 GMT -5
Upon reading the Wikipædic entry to which kleines c has kindly directed us, I experience the Thatcher effect: of one of his policies, "During the 2010 Conservative Party Conference, Gove announced that school curriculum would be restructured, and that study of authors such as Byron, Keats, Jane Austen, Dickens and Thomas Hardy would be reintroduced to English lessons as part of a plan to improve children’s grasp of English literature and language. Children who fail to write coherently and grammatically, and who are weak in spelling, would be penalised under new examinations."I thoroughly approve - but most of his other policies are disgusting, and his private behaviour - particularly in regard to expenses - has been lamentable. The most interesting thing was to look up his school in Aberdeen - quite like my own. How distressing it must have been for all the students not that way inclined when thrusting females were suddenly admitted in conformity with a misguided and populist policy introduced by certain left-wing ideologues! Incidentally, Aberdeen boasts some excellent amusement arcades: local.stv.tv/aberdeen/news/18621-amusement-arcade-plans-for-union-street/
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2013 3:30:23 GMT -5
I should perhaps confess that girls now go to my old secondary school too, Gerard, and it has apparently improved greatly since I went there. Of course, I would argue that it has improved greatly, because I went there, but such judgements are always difficult to call, even in retrospect. When I was still at school, Gerard, I remember chatting to the chairman of the school governors over a champagne reception with my customary dry, and very English, sense of humour. He was asking me how I had developed my indecently good googly which seemed to defy the very laws of spin. I explained how the leg spinner's prize weapon, as bowled properly, was almost undetectable, and then offered to give a practical demonstration. My old English teacher threw a particularly old cricket ball at me. Here it is again, if only for everyone reading The Third this weekend. A googly, or a "wrong'un", is a delivery which looks like a normal leg spinner but actually turns towards the batsman, like an off break, rather than away from the bat. Unlike a normal leg break, a googly is delivered out of the back of the hand, with your wrist 180 degrees to the ground. In terms of the dark art of spin, here is a quick masterclass, which would have impressed even Shane Warne, arguably the greatest leg spinner of all time: The chairman of the governors listened carefully to this explanation, and then replied, "You know, kleines c, the Almighty gave the English cricket as a foretaste of Eternity." Of course, this may also explain why I am so reliable at the line-out. Some hookers miss their target. I guess that it all depends upon whom you are trying to hook? This afternoon in Cardiff, the Welsh will be trying to stop England win the Grand Slam. To be honest, I would have liked to have been hooking for either team, Gerard! BBC - Sport - Rugby Union - Six Nations 2013: England must 'harness fear' to win in Wales
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